S8 Ep5: S8, The State v. Patricia Rorrer - Episode 3 - Leads To Nowhere
Undisclosed: Toward Justice
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🗓️ 8 June 2026
⏱️ 46 minutes
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June 8, 2026 - In this episode, the team digs further into the leads that the police pursued with the help of the FBI.
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| 0:00.0 | A couple of days after Joanne and her baby, Alex Katernak, disappeared from |
| 0:11.3 | Katasaka, Pennsylvania without a trace on December 15th, 1994, a full-scale investigation ensued. |
| 0:19.4 | The Pennsylvania State Police took the lead on the investigation |
| 0:21.9 | with help from the FBI. The Katernak house and garage was searched and some evidence |
| 0:27.2 | collected from the site. Joe's car was towed away and processed. A reward was announced, and |
| 0:32.4 | investigators interviewed dozens upon dozens of people. People who lived in the area, people who knew the |
| 0:38.1 | Katranaks, people Joe had worked with, people at businesses she patronized. And of course, |
| 0:43.8 | the prime suspects, Andy Katernak and Joe's ex-husband Michael Jack were closely scrutinized. |
| 1:00.0 | Joe's family felt confident that Andy had nothing to do with the disappearance of their daughter and their grandson. In fact, her mother stated that Joe was very happy in her marriage to Andy. |
| 1:05.0 | But her first marriage, the one to Michael Jack, that had been a bad one. |
| 1:10.0 | Jack didn't live close by though. He lived in Randolph, |
| 1:12.9 | New Jersey, about 90 minutes away. But that didn't mean he couldn't have been involved. |
| 1:17.8 | Kadasakwa officer Barry Grub contacted the Randolph police and a lieutenant was dispatched to speak to |
| 1:23.0 | Michael Jack. Jack told him he was at work all day on the 15th, which was confirmed by his employer. |
| 1:29.8 | Jack told investigators he hadn't spoken to Joe in three years and didn't even know where she |
| 1:33.7 | lived or that she was married and had a baby. Jack wasn't off the hook yet, though. The police |
| 1:39.2 | brought him in for another interview and a polygraph, but not until March 23, 1995. By then, weeks, then months, |
| 1:48.2 | had dragged on with no sign of Joanne and Alex. During the meeting, Jack admitted their |
| 1:57.0 | relationship was tumultuous with lots of matches, and some physical altercations. |
| 2:02.5 | He described Joe as heartless, that she would say and do things to hurt him and never apologize. |
| 2:08.3 | She was never happy with any of the gifts he brought her, never empathetic to him, even when his father died. |
| 2:14.0 | Maybe it was because her own relationship with her father was terrible. |
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