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selected stores Vision Express as a credit broker and not a lender. Linda. Hello and welcome to Out with me Susie Ruffle.

Hello, I hope that whenever you're listening to this you are having a good day.

First of all I need to say a big thank you to everyone that got in touch with

the last week's episode with the brilliant Dan O'Neill. I loved that conversation too.

I thought it was so interesting. If you haven't listened Dan is a biologist and an

explorer and he is just utterly fascinating and I loved sitting down and

listening to him talk for an hour and just learning about his world.

I received lots of messages about that episode. One email that just

read Science, this is all, thank you from Emily, so thank you for that Emily, I'm really

pleased that you enjoyed it, but it seemed that it really struck a chord lots of people and it was something a bit different for this

podcast so if you haven't listened to that one yet please have a listen. I've got another

fantastic episode for you today with Luma Muffler who is a writer, a teacher, an activist, a coach.

She's so many things and I absolutely loved this conversation. She's recently written a book

called Believe in them. One Woman's Fight for

Justice for Refugee Children. I loved this conversation and I really hope that you do too.

But before then, as always, I've got a couple of listener emails that I would love to share with you,

and then we'll get into today's conversation.

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