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S8 Ep494: 5. Bunker 5: The Hiss Conviction and McCarthy’s Senate Rise. Alger Hiss’s perjury conviction empowered Senator McCarthy to launch an aggressive five-hour speech, fundamentally altering the political landscape by alleging widespread communist subversion in

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 22 February 2026

⏱️ 10 minutes

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5. Bunker 5: The Hiss Conviction and McCarthy’s Senate Rise. Alger Hiss’s perjury conviction empowered Senator McCarthy to launch an aggressive five-hour speech, fundamentally altering the political landscape by alleging widespread communist subversion in Washington. Guest: Nick Bunker.

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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World.

0:08.5

Here's John Batchelor.

0:11.9

Continuing with a historian Nick Bunkard, his new book in The Shadow of Fear,

0:16.4

America and the World in 1950.

0:19.2

The quote from Bertrand Russell, all at present, all except the most

0:24.3

thoughtless, live under the shadow of fear. It is January 1950. These events, among many,

0:32.8

the Korea bill is defeated in Congress. The B-36 is in abeyance as a plane that's too slow and will be

0:43.3

easily shot down by the MiG-15 just introduced in Moscow. The president approves research for the

0:50.3

super bomb, the H-bomb. The USS, Missouri, the last battleship in the fleet,

0:56.4

runs aground because they mistake buoys in Virginia.

1:00.8

Everybody laughs at the president.

1:02.5

That, of course, is where the peace deal was signed in 1945 in Tokyo Harbor.

1:09.8

And Carl Munt and Joe McCarthy and I'll take advantage of an event that we're going to go to right now.

1:18.9

January 25th, Manhattan, the courthouse, and the way Nick presents it is vivid.

1:27.0

A tall, elegant-looking couple, she in a green dress,

1:30.6

approached the courthouse for sentencing.

1:32.7

Who are they, Nick?

1:34.4

These are Alger and Priscilla Hiss.

1:37.0

And what had happened was that Alger Hiss had been convicted a few days earlier of perjury.

1:42.8

He had been convicted of perjury in his testimony to a federal

1:46.2

grand jury a couple of years earlier relating to allegations that he had passed documents to the

1:52.5

Soviet Union when he was a State Department official in the 1930s. So January 25th,

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