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S8 Ep494: 3. Bunker 3: The Republican Insurgency and Robert Taft’s Vision. Robert Taft championed an "Asia First" foreign policy while Joe McCarthy began hijacking the Republican agenda, transforming domestic political debates into a fierce anti-communist crusade.

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🗓️ 22 February 2026

⏱️ 14 minutes

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3. Bunker 3: The Republican Insurgency and Robert Taft’s Vision. Robert Taft championed an "Asia First" foreign policy while Joe McCarthy began hijacking the Republican agenda, transforming domestic political debates into a fierce anti-communist crusade. Guest: Nick Bunker.

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0:00.0

This is CBSI on the world. I'm John Batchelor.

0:07.1

The historian Nick Bunker, in the shadow of fear, America and the world in 1950.

0:12.9

We've met the Democrats in charge of Congress and the executive.

0:16.8

Now we need to meet the Republicans.

0:19.5

Bob Taft, Mr. Conservative, the son of a president, a man who dominates Ohio except for he's

0:25.8

running for re-election.

0:27.4

He's bald.

0:28.7

He's energetic.

0:30.1

He's extremely exciting because he comes up with arguments that are intellectual at the

0:36.0

same time populist.

0:38.1

And he drives his own car around Ohio.

0:40.7

However, there's much more to Bob Taft than just talking about Ohio.

0:46.7

There is his foreign policy visions.

0:49.3

Nick, Bob Taft, surprising to learn, was pro-Taiwan, was very much a man who was thinking about the world outside of the Middle West, which is where the Republicans were strong at this moment.

1:03.4

He has ambitions. First, he wants to get reelected in 1950. Is he thinking about himself as president at this time? Oh, yes. I think he was definitely

1:13.5

thinking about himself as the presidential candidate for 52. And generally speaking, most commentators

1:20.2

at the time thought there was going to be a choice between Dwight D. Eisenhower or Taft as

1:25.0

the candidate in 1952. That was really a very common view. Now, Taft was

1:31.2

very interesting character. It's really rather unfair that, of course, he's rather been forgotten

1:34.9

and neglected nowadays. The reason really being simply that he died quite young, he died of

1:39.3

pancreatic cancer just a few years after the events we're describing here. And so he's,

1:43.4

he didn't have as long a career as he

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