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S8 Ep493: Gregory Zuckerman recounts the dramatic mapping and sharing of the COVID-19 genetic sequence, which launched global efforts to develop messenger RNA and adenovirus-based vaccines against the pandemic. 1

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John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 22 February 2026

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Gregory Zuckerman recounts the dramatic mapping and sharing of the COVID-19 genetic sequence, which launched global efforts to develop messenger RNA and adenovirus-based vaccines against the pandemic. 1

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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World.

0:08.2

Here's John Batchelor.

0:10.7

I welcome Gregory Zuckerman.

0:12.4

He is the author of the new book about the vaccine so far,

0:16.9

A Shot to Save the World,

0:18.5

the inside story of the life or death race for a COVID-19 vaccine.

0:24.7

Gregory, congratulations, and a very good evening to you, and thank you for this.

0:28.6

I take you to a dramatic moment in your book.

0:31.8

It is January 2020.

0:36.1

Chinese researcher, Zhang, headquartered at Fudan University in Shanghai, his lab is there,

0:43.4

has received what he needs to map out the genome of what he suspects is a new version of SARS

0:50.9

or something odd that's been reported from Wuhan, the 11 million populated

0:56.8

city in the middle of China that is experiencing strange afflictions. He gets the material he

1:05.1

needs to map the genome and he calls his colleague Eddie Holmes inmes in australia what does he tell him good

1:12.8

evening to you gregory good evening and great to you back here and yeah you've kind of pinpointed

1:18.4

what i what i think is an overlooked um and very dramatic episode that was a turning point in in history

1:26.4

frankly so this scientist, as you mentioned,

1:30.5

in China, Zhang, a 58-year-old infectious disease expert, he basically maps the genome of this new

1:39.2

and really troubling and even scary virus. They're not sure what it is yet, but it seems like SARS,

1:46.3

and it seems more dangerous than the first SARS. If you recall that one, did kill some people.

1:51.7

It was lethal, but eventually petered out, partly because or largely because we could identify

1:57.3

who had been infected. And what the scientist, Zhang, gets scared about is that there are

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