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S8 Ep417: PREVIEW FOR LATER TODAY Guest: Grant Newsham. Newsham explains that China runs like a mob family with Xi Jinping as the fretful boss, analyzing the internal dynamics and paranoia that characterize CCP leadership.

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 5 February 2026

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PREVIEW FOR LATER TODAY Guest: Grant Newsham. Newsham explains that China runs like a mob family with Xi Jinping as the fretful boss, analyzing the internal dynamics and paranoia that characterize CCP leadership.
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0:00.0

This is John Batchel, a conversation with my colleague Grant Newsham, author of When China Attacks,

0:06.1

many years in the U.S. Marine Corps intelligence officer, Colonel, retired,

0:12.3

commenting on how Xi Jinping thinks of himself and how the Chinese Communist Party works.

0:19.7

The straightforward analogy makes sense.

0:23.7

Mobsters.

0:24.9

Here's Grant to explain.

0:27.8

Also, what worries she?

0:31.9

You didn't think he was worried.

0:33.8

Well, he does all the time.

0:36.1

Here's Grant.

0:41.0

He does. I think mob boss is probably a little better, but you'll notice that even the bosses at the very top, all of them must wonder when

0:47.2

they go to sleep if they're going to wake up. Yes, they may have power, but they're always worried

0:52.2

about somebody else moving in or something happening.

0:56.3

And one thing that he does worry about when it comes to using force is not succeeding and not succeeding quickly.

1:03.5

If he has seen to sort of lost his Wasta, lost his mojo, and say they get bogged down in an attack on Taiwan or southern Japan or India,

1:13.8

the Philippines, wherever, and they're stuck.

1:17.0

And you're finding that economic sanctions are just piling up.

1:22.1

And it isn't working out the way it was supposed to.

1:24.9

At that point, you'll see the rivals start to reemerge,

1:28.8

and you will even see in China public opinion and the population actually turning against him.

1:35.5

And you got a whiff of that during the COVID lockdowns in China and the sort of the public

1:41.0

response to that. So that is one thing that worries him as much as potential

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