S8 Ep415: Guest: John Cochrane. Cochrane discusses the demand for foreign investment, examining how capital flows impact the U.S. economy and the complexities of managing trade imbalances.
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 4 February 2026
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batchel, and John Cochran of the Hoover Institution, an economist is here with me to review his |
| 0:22.5 | thoughts on the president's op-ed in the Wall Street Journal on January 30th of 2026, claiming a victory, |
| 0:29.9 | victory for his liberation day. In addition, there is the component of foreign investment |
| 0:36.6 | that is a big part of the president's announcements |
| 0:38.8 | every time he deals with individual countries. South Korea, for example, or the European Union, |
| 0:45.4 | anywhere in the world, when there's a deal, it's always beautiful. All right, I accept that. |
| 0:51.6 | But the money coming here, John, I've been taught by you and others that money goes where it's treated best. |
| 0:58.2 | Is that what's happening because there's an element of protection racket here? |
| 1:04.0 | Yeah. |
| 1:04.6 | Now, I am delighted to see foreigners investing in the U.S. |
| 1:07.3 | That's a good thing. |
| 1:08.6 | And foreigners investing in the U.S. private sector is a |
| 1:12.0 | great thing, as opposed to just buying government bonds that we use to go on a consumption binge. |
| 1:18.0 | This doesn't necessarily, that it's government directed, you know, a government promises to give |
| 1:22.7 | the U.S. government funds that the U.S. government directs where it goes, is generally goes off |
| 1:27.3 | into inefficient places. We directs where it goes, is generally goes off into inefficient |
| 1:27.9 | places. We want investment into things that are productive, not things that are not productive. |
| 1:35.5 | And so I'm a little, as I sense you are, uncomfortable that it's the form of government-to-government |
| 1:41.9 | deals, the government taking equity stakes in companies. You know, the definition of socialism is government deals, the government taking equity stakes in companies. |
| 1:45.5 | You know, the definition of socialism is government ownership of the means of production. |
| 1:49.0 | Well, the government owns a lot of intel right now. |
| 1:51.2 | That's industrial policy, which I thought was a taboo in America until it was revived. |
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