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Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff

S8 Ep4: Missing the Trees for the Forest

Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff

Bob Ruff

Documentary, Society & Culture, True Crime

4.57.8K Ratings

🗓️ 7 June 2020

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Bob breaks down the DNA evidence that implicated Deborah Pieringer in her parent's murders, and digs deeper into timelines, alibis, and alternate suspects. With listener help, we get much closer to determining time of death, and we finally have the answer to whether or not Agnes was napping. 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

If the mysterious lawnmowers make you go, hmm, then a strange man in the courties back

0:05.9

yard really ought to make you go.

0:08.2

Are you fucking serious?

0:09.6

For NBI Studios, this is Truth Injustice, a crowdsourced investigation in real time.

0:15.9

I'm Bob Ruff.

0:30.0

Investigating the case of the murders of Lloyd and Agnes Courtney is proving to be one of

0:37.6

the most difficult tasks that I've ever undertaken.

0:41.1

It first the complexities seem to derive from the chaotic crime scene, but as I'm moving

0:45.9

along I'm discovering that the crime scene is not the issue.

0:50.0

The problem is, like in any case, the crime scene is a puzzle, and it's our job to put

0:55.6

the pieces together.

0:57.4

No matter how complicated a scene appears to be, when we break it down piece by piece,

1:03.2

the picture always becomes clear.

1:05.4

But what I'm realizing now is that the courties crime scene is a puzzle that's missing pieces.

1:16.7

Last week I promised that we will dig into the forensics in this episode, in hopes that

1:21.4

the noticeable gaps will be filled in.

1:24.3

Unfortunately, as I was researching trial transcripts, the DA's file, the police file,

1:29.9

I came to the disappointing realization that the Fort Worth Police Department approached

1:34.8

this case with blinders on.

1:37.4

And that may have led to Agnes and Lloyd's killer, walking free.

1:49.0

Texas Ranger James Holland is a legendary interrogator.

1:52.4

They call him the serial killer Whisperer.

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