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S8 Ep384: Bob Zimmerman of Behind the Black explains Blue Origin and SpaceX next missions, previewing upcoming launches and milestones as both companies push forward with ambitious spaceflight development programs.

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🗓️ 28 January 2026

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Bob Zimmerman of Behind the Black explains Blue Origin and SpaceX next missions, previewing upcoming launches and milestones as both companies push forward with ambitious spaceflight development programs.
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0:00.0

I'm John Bachelor, January 2026. Write it down. Blue Origin begins to look like a company that has

0:22.9

ambitions. I welcome Bob Zimmerman. He keeps the website behind the black. Blue Origin is Jeff Bezos.

0:29.2

Quite separate from Amazon's constellation of satellites for a communication system.

0:36.4

The Blue Origin people are building very good rockets,

0:39.6

New Glenn, for example. But they're slow. They're the tortoise. The hair over here,

0:45.8

much to say about SpaceX, but we're looking right now at the tortoise. And the tortoise is

0:51.7

rumbling into shape, begins to look promising, although slow.

0:56.0

Bob, what is the significance of a reusable booster, Blue Origin? Good evening to you.

1:00.9

Good evening, John. Well, it's the same significance as the reusable Falcon 9 at SpaceX. It lowers

1:05.6

the cost. It makes it possible to launch a lot more frequently. It basically makes it possible for the human race to settle the stars.

1:14.4

And Blue Origin, Jeff Bezos's company, has been promising that its new Glenn rocket would be a reusable rocket like the Falcon 9.

1:22.6

It's been making this promise the same amount of time that SpaceX has been promising the Falcon 9.

1:28.6

Both rockets were proposed at almost the exact same time back in the aughts two decades ago.

1:35.5

SpaceX got it built, got it launched, has been flying it, we're using the first stages now

1:40.1

for a decade, has dropped and reused first stages to think something like 600 times.

1:46.3

Blue Origin, as you say, is slow.

1:48.5

They only successfully launched New Glenn for the first time last year.

1:53.5

And they did it twice last year, which was good.

1:56.7

They started to make progress.

1:59.0

And on the second launch, they did something spectacular and good.

2:02.8

They landed the first stage on their barge out a landing platform out in the Atlantic.

2:11.5

And so they were able to land that first stage.

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