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S8 Ep370: Leila Philip discusses 19th-century anthropologist Lewis Henry Morgan, who documented beaver dams in the Lake Superior Basin, where Philip recently observed centuries-old dams still continually cleansing water. Philip also details her immersion into the w

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 26 January 2026

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Leila Philip discusses 19th-century anthropologist Lewis Henry Morgan, who documented beaver dams in the Lake Superior Basin, where Philip recently observed centuries-old dams still continually cleansing water. Philip also details her immersion into the world of modern fur trappers, finding unexpected ecological knowledge and a deep connection to nature within that culture.

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0:00.0

This is CBSI in the world. I'm John Batchel with Professor Leila Philip, the College of the Holy Cross.

0:11.0

She teaches in the Environmental Studies Program, and that's what we're talking about, the beaver,

0:15.7

Casercanadensis. Now, once upon a time, the beavers were as big as bears, but that's several million

0:22.1

years ago leading up until the end of the ice age.

0:25.5

We're talking about the beaver that is recognizable in colonial America.

0:30.4

And now we're in the late 19th century, a man named Louis Henry Morgan in 1855, and then again in 1862 has converted his obsession from the trout to the

0:44.2

beaver and he's on an expedition in the Lake Superior Basin to photograph a beaver dam.

0:52.3

Professor, this is a story you can't make up. Morgan is a character.

0:57.1

What did he make of this beaver dam? What were his thoughts? Thank you. This is one of my

1:02.9

favorite sections of the book. And he is such an amazing American figure because he's such a

1:10.6

study in contradictions. So Lewis Henry Morgan,

1:14.7

you know, he's one of America's first ethnographers and anthropologists. He was also an

1:20.7

industrialist, so he was a railroad investor. You know, he managed to write actually what is still considered one of the most important and earliest ethnographies of the Iroquois people.

1:33.8

And he goes out to visit his friend, one of the Eli's, who's building a railroad line to mine for iron ore in near Marquette, Michigan.

1:46.0

And as you point out, well, he's a big trout fisherman.

1:49.0

And while they're fishing for trout, they can't get anywhere because they keep having to go

1:53.4

over these magnificent, to lift the boats over these magnificent beaver dams.

1:58.2

And he falls in love with these constructions. He's just fascinated by the

2:04.6

beaver dams. And he makes it his mission for the next 15 years to document and map them.

2:12.1

And he produces a book called The American Beaver, publishes it in 1868. It is the first authoritative account of the beaver in North America, in the United States

2:24.2

anyway, and it is still considered authoritative.

2:29.0

And it's tremendously important because what he was able to do was document these beaver constructions before

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