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with Indeed. This is John Batchel, conversation with colleague Cleo Pascal.

She's in Palau in the Central Pacific, talking about a meeting in Honolulu,

just concluded a defense forum to combat, to refute to in some fashion hold off the Chinese aggression

all across the Indo-Pacific,

but especially in the critical islands that are under the U.S. protection in Central Pacific.

Palau being a major detail because it is the doorstep to the Japan in the north

and the Philippines in the south and Taiwan in the

west, East Asia. Here's clear to explain how the president of Palau made it very clear at

the defense forum in Honolulu what the threat is and what it looks like, what is to be done.

More of this, than I. It depended. It depended. So, and in fact, State Department was a little bit less clear on this

issue. But again, the president of Palau, a country that recognizes Taiwan, President

Whips, he was really explicit about the Chinese doing illegal fishing,

cyber attack, setting up scam centers.

He went through the entire panoply

of political warfare operations that are designed

to destabilize his country.

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