This is John Batchel. Colleague, Judy Dempsey, from Berlin. The Carnegie Endowment for International Peace reports on the bitterness of the winter already. With the lights and power, electricity, and heating gone and keef, we're told. The worst winter of the war so far. And Judy celebrates the fact that Europe has power.

It's expensive power, but it's power.

Ukraine does not.

The irony is obvious.

More of this tonight.

Oh, John, if there was an EU opinion, you'd be doing a special show on this.

It's very difficult to get any kind of unity in the EU, even with this latest conflict

between the United States, Greenland, Denmark and the European Union.

No, it's, every member state is looking after itself,

looking at the amount of gas supplies they have,

relying more and more on US expensive,

lichrified natural gas.

There's very little talk about trying to save energy,

but it's a bitterly cold winter.

And what is interesting is that especially German television and indeed large parts of the European media are giving quite a lot of attention to Ukraine,

where temperatures have slipped to minus 20. I mean, that's so cold, that's Celsius here. And it's bitterly cold.

And at the same time, President Putin's forces are bombing the infrastructure, the civilian

infrastructure, military infrastructure, the capital key. Day by day, there's no heating, no water,

no sanitation, schools are closed, kids are staying

home until at least February. It's a state of emergency. So in some ways there's an element

of European saying, oh gosh, it's very cold here. On the other hand, when you tell them, and I speak

to them regularly or when television radio says, hang on, look what's happening in Ukraine,

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