I'm John Bachelor of Professor Richard Coward, and we're dealing with the war within the war,

the war from the pulpits.

Abraham Lincoln, in the midst of these completely overwhelming language from the pulpits and from the press.

And we're now dealing with a man who was not a preacher because the Catholic Church had thought he was too extreme. So it turned him into a publisher. And he was. And he published what you'd have to say is books that, I mean,

pamphlets and newspapers are completely upset. Secretary of State Seward and everybody else

in the cabinet. So they had him jailed. His wife, Gertrude, writes Lincoln again

and again saying, let him go. All he did was and fill in the blank, especially his vituperations.

So he took a note of obedience and released him, and he went right back to publishing. He named

another publishing. I fell in love with McMaster. I didn't

know about him, Professor. What do we need to know about him today? Well, I understand why you

fell in love with him in the sense that he is just an extraordinary polemicist and an extraordinary

intelligent man. He's very well educated, very well read.

It has to be said, he's a Presbyterian originally

before he converts to Catholicism.

And for a period, Bishop Hughes, Archbishop Hughes,

is prepared to use him as the editor of his legitimate church organ.

You know, he's speaking for the archbishop.

But the archbishop who cuts him loose, he's too extreme for the archbishop,

who is pretty staunch unionist after all. McMaster, as the editorbishop, who is pretty staunch unionist, after all.

McMaster, as the editor of the Freeman's Journal, the New York Freeman's Journal,

which is by no means restricted in its circulation to the state of New York. It has readers

right across the north, and McMaster it's, it, it's, uh, it's, uh, has readers right across the north.

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