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S8 Ep326: PERU NAMED NON-NATO PARTNER AS US COUNTERS CHINESE INFLUENCE Colleague Oscar Sumar, Deputy Vice Chancellor at Universidad Científica del Sur. Oscar Sumar discusses Peru's designation as a US non-NATO partner, a move designed to counter Chinese geopolitica

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🗓️ 17 January 2026

⏱️ 11 minutes

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PERU NAMED NON-NATO PARTNER AS US COUNTERS CHINESE INFLUENCE Colleague Oscar Sumar, Deputy Vice Chancellor at Universidad Científica del Sur. Oscar Sumar discusses Peru's designation as a US non-NATO partner, a move designed to counter Chinese geopolitical expansion through infrastructure like the Chancay port. Sumar warns that while cultural ties are strong, the Chinese Communist Party poses a threat to Peru's democratic stability and political transparency. NUMBER 15
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I'm John Batchel, and I welcome Oscar Sumar.

1:00.8

He is in Lima, Peru, writing for the Civitas Outlook at the Civitas Institute,

1:04.7

about the future for his country, Peru, with the United States.

1:17.0

Oscar is Deputy Vice-Chancellor for Academic Affairs at the Universitat Scientificate D'Alsour in Peru. He's also a fellow of the public law and policy program at Berkeley Law and founding director of B. Latin. Oscar, a very good day to you. The surprising news to me,

1:22.7

given the troubles that Peru has had recently, including two now detained former presidents, one elected, one elected vice president, and then elevated to the presidency and then detained.

1:36.0

And an election in the springtime, all that trouble. And yet the U.S. is just named Peru a non-NATO partner, a non-NATO military partner.

1:47.1

What does that mean for Peru?

1:48.5

What does it mean for the people of Lima?

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What does it mean for you?

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Good evening to you.

1:53.5

Thank you, John.

1:54.5

It's very important because in the last years, we have seen a lot of influence by China in the region and in Peru. They have

2:04.6

made a lot of investments, but as we already know, when they do this type of economic

2:12.4

ties or investments, they are thinking not only in economic terms but in security terms and

2:18.8

geopolitical terms so we saw a lot of influence and we see a lot of influence from China

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