S8 Ep326: DATA CENTERS STRAIN THE ELECTRICAL GRID Colleague Henry Sokolski. Henry Sokolski discusses the surging demand for electricity driven by AI data centers and the White House's proposal to auction power access. He argues that tech companies should finance th
The John Batchelor Show
John Batchelor
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🗓️ 17 January 2026
⏱️ 10 minutes
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| 0:57.6 | I'm John Batcher, joined by Henry Sikovsky, the Executive Director of the Nonproliferation Policy Education Center, who's my guide on the future, the future of energy in the United States, |
| 1:03.3 | and the future of security in the United States. Both have a great deal in common. |
| 1:08.2 | Without energy, you have no security. So we begin with the question |
| 1:12.8 | about the energy picture for the next few years and then for the rest of the century. We're told |
| 1:20.4 | generally the demand for electricity is going to go up. Why? There are a variety of reasons. |
| 1:26.4 | The tech centers are mentioned, the data tech centers, |
| 1:28.7 | because they're huge consumers of electricity. But there's a fundamental infrastructure that is not |
| 1:35.6 | much in the debate. Henry's guided me to it. Out here in the country, I puzzle why they build |
| 1:41.6 | power lines in a forest because every time there's a wind, something snaps, |
| 1:46.8 | and I lose electric power from the utility. |
| 1:51.2 | Fortunately, I have a backup called Generac with natural gas and it will run the house for weeks. |
| 1:57.5 | That doesn't solve a national problem. |
| 1:59.7 | The other detail that is important is that what I think of as an infrastructure, that power line in the forest, nationally is called an electric grid. |
| 2:09.8 | And I've learned anecdotally since Henry guided me that the electric grid is not in good shape. |
| 2:15.8 | Henry, do I say that correctly? |
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