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S8 Ep300: Guest: Ronald White. In 1880, Maine faced a violent political crisis known as the "Count Out," where armed mobs threatened the statehouse over a stolen election. Chamberlain, called upon to keep the peace, courageously faced a mob intent on killing him. H

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🗓️ 11 January 2026

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Guest: Ronald White. In 1880, Maine faced a violent political crisis known as the "Count Out," where armed mobs threatened the statehouse over a stolen election. Chamberlain, called upon to keep the peace, courageously faced a mob intent on killing him. He opened his coat and offered his life to preserve the state's honor, successfully dispersing the crowd without bloodshed. This period also saw him testify to vindicate General Warren's reputation regarding Five Forks. After leaving Bowdoin, he struggled with business ventures in Florida but remained a dominant voice in the "second Civil War" fought over the memory of the conflict.

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on great fields the life and unlikely heroism of joshua lawrence chamberlain yes he stood his ground at

0:50.9

little roundtop yes he speaks of the war to an audience that wants to remember

0:56.1

that learns for the first time and is dealing with a country that is torn into. The Confederacy

1:02.7

remained defiant of Washington and the politicians of the latter part of the 19th century

1:09.4

didn't do a lot to heal the country.

1:12.8

There was cronyism.

1:14.5

There was what you'd have to say today, total corruption.

1:17.6

The gilded age, for heaven's sakes.

1:19.1

People are making money, and they're not very careful about it.

1:23.2

The Republicans dominate the conversation, except for Grover Cleveland, who is an unusual Democrat

1:29.7

in that he comes from New York State, a solid Republican state.

1:34.3

Grover Cleveland is the only disruption to the Republican supremacy in the latter part of the 19th century.

1:40.8

We come now to a battle that takes place in Augusta, Maine, the capital. As I understand

1:46.4

it quickly, and it gets confusing, there are the Republicans who usually win, the Democrats who

1:52.6

win once Governor Garcelon as a Democrat. They're the greenbacks, which is a third party

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