S8 Ep295: THE HORROR OF OCTOBER 7 AND THE ORIGINS OF HAMAS Colleague Seth Frantzman. Seth Frantzman recounts his harrowing experience on the evening of October 7, discovering a body on the road to Gaza, symbolizing the chaos of the initial invasion. The conversatio
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🗓️ 10 January 2026
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBS Eye on the World. |
| 0:08.5 | Here's John Batchelor. |
| 0:11.5 | I welcome Seth Fransman of the Jerusalem Post-war correspondent, |
| 0:16.8 | of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, |
| 0:19.2 | and the author of The very helpful new book, |
| 0:22.8 | The October 7 War, Israel's Battle for Security in Gaza, just published. |
| 0:28.6 | I recommend for those of you who've lived the war as I have, |
| 0:32.6 | and yet seeing it written down and broken into very clear paragraphs with names attached helps a deal remember |
| 0:39.2 | what we've been through for nearly a year. Seth, congratulations, and a very good evening to you, |
| 0:44.9 | and I take you immediately to the evening of October 7th. I'm sure it's burned in your memory. |
| 0:50.9 | You drove as fast as you could to Gaza, knowing that there was chaos in some |
| 0:55.7 | fashion. You come to a police checkpoint. You stop your car, you get out, and there's a, I believe, |
| 1:02.4 | blue car in the middle of a four-lane highway, and there's a sack next to it. What did you |
| 1:07.6 | find, Seth, and what are your memories of that moment? Good evening to you. |
| 1:12.8 | Well, good evening to you. So, yeah, that day was the, it was the evening of the first day of the war. |
| 1:18.0 | So the war had been going on at that point for about 12 hours or so. It was going to be sunset. |
| 1:24.6 | And I tried to get down to the, you know, Gaza border as fast as possible. So I driven past |
| 1:29.4 | some other police checkpoints near Stero, which was closed off because there were terrorists there. |
| 1:34.2 | So I got to a place that was south of the city of Ashkelon, this highway, it's four or five lanes |
| 1:41.0 | wide. And that highway goes directly towards, towards Gaza. |
| 1:46.2 | There's just several Israeli communities next to it. |
| 1:48.6 | Like, yeah, I'm mortified. |
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