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🗓️ 10 January 2026
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| 0:00.0 | Brandon Weicker, the author of the new book, The Shadow War. I'm John Batchel. Iran's quest for supremacy. |
| 0:07.0 | The 1990s bring a new president and a new view of Iran. This is Bill Clinton and the Clinton administration, followed by George Bush and the Bush administration. |
| 0:18.6 | Quickly now, we're seeing America's policy towards Iran evolve. |
| 0:23.2 | How would you characterize Mr. Clinton's approach, given that there was that the episode of Iraq had intervened? |
| 0:31.3 | Well, Bill Clinton's approach, he typical, so in the book, I kind of show the differences in the political parties in America, |
| 0:38.0 | how they deal with the post-Shah Iran. Clinton's approach is very much diplomatic and somewhat |
| 0:45.0 | conciliatory or accommodationist, nowhere near what it ended up being under President Obama, |
| 0:50.9 | or even under President Carter, but Clinton was definitely more amenable to trying to get a |
| 0:57.2 | deal to stabilize relations with the Ayatoll or the Comanius regime of Iran. |
| 1:03.1 | And the Clinton administration did not focus on Iran, did focus on Iran? |
| 1:08.7 | They were mostly concerned with Baghdad, with Iran. |
| 1:12.4 | That's right. Remember, they were enforcing a no-fly zone in the north and the south of Iraq after the 91 Desert Storm. |
| 1:20.7 | And to some degree, they were more interested in sort of counterterrorism issues in Afghanistan and elsewhere. |
| 1:27.4 | So it was not a primary focus of the government under Bill Clinton, |
| 1:32.2 | but certainly they were more defaulting toward, we'll do a deal, |
| 1:38.2 | and we'll have diplomacy rather than brinksmanship against Iran. |
| 1:42.7 | Ruhalo, how many, the Ayatollah dies in 1989. |
| 1:47.1 | The new Ayatollah, Hamanai, who is still in authority, |
| 1:53.4 | his approach to America. |
| 1:55.7 | What was his opinion at the time? |
| 1:58.7 | Was it more than death to America? |
| 2:00.7 | I would say there is a high degree of consistency between Kumani and Khamani. |
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