This is John Batchel, a conversation with the columnist and author Josh Hammer, his new book, Israel and Civilization.

We come here to a quote that he uses in his book from George Washington University, something about lighting a spark, a flame, destroying the West or empire.

Josh interprets here and very carefully explains that this is not only about revolting against

his Israel and the Jewish people.

It's also about the West.

Here's Josh to explain.

More of this tonight.

Israel and civilization.

Josh Hammer is the author.

Well, John, this is, I think, the way that the whole intersectional woke DEI people view the Israeli-Palestinian conflict

is they view deeply erroneously, but they view nonetheless Israel as being the epitome of

the Western nation states, the epitome of settler colonialism, all these various buzzwords that

have been gaining traction in the American Academy

for many, many decades now.

So if you think that America, I mean, they're basically, honestly, what they're doing here, John,

is they're essentially mirroring Iranian regime ideology.

Iran likes to say that Israel is the little Satan and America is the big Satan.

That's basically what these little campus jihadists at George Washington University are getting

out there.

They're saying that October 7th will be the flame that will light further ruination for

the United States.

And this is not an isolated instance to George Washington University.

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