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S8 Ep287: ARTEMIS 2 RISKS AND THE SEARCH FOR LIFE IN SPACE Colleague Bob Zimmerman, BehindtheBlack.com. Bob Zimmerman urges NASA to fly Artemis 2 unmanned due to unresolved Orion heat shield damage, arguing safety should trump beating China. He also dismisses conce

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 9 January 2026

⏱️ 10 minutes

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 ARTEMIS 2 RISKS AND THE SEARCH FOR LIFE IN SPACE Colleague Bob Zimmerman, BehindtheBlack.com. Bob Zimmerman urges NASA to fly Artemis 2 unmanned due to unresolved Orion heat shield damage, arguing safety should trump beating China. He also dismisses concerns about lunar methane contamination and highlights a new study suggesting ice caps could allow liquid water lakes to exist on Mars. NUMBER 16

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0:00.0

I'm John Batchel. Behind the Black, Bob Zimmerman is here to take us to the solar system.

0:08.7

But first, we're going to stop on planet Earth because there's gathering questions raised about Artemis II.

0:16.0

And Bob is going to educate us about what are the risks.

0:20.2

Bob, a very good evening to you.

0:21.7

Artemis II, what is it and what is it concern?

0:25.5

Artemis II is the next mission to on the whole Artemis program to get to the moon.

0:32.9

It is scheduled to begin to fly sometime in the next three months.

0:40.1

NASA has got the SLS rocket stacked, the Orion capsule on top.

0:44.7

They've already done a dress rehearsal.

0:46.4

It will send four astronauts around the moon, sling them around the moon, and bring them back to Earth.

0:52.6

It's basically a duplication of the 22

0:54.5

unmanned mission, but this time they put four people on it. Well, I've got an op-ed today at PJ Media

1:01.2

where I am basically begging Donald Trump and Gerard Isaacman, NASA administrator, to take the crew

1:10.0

off this mission. And your listeners and my readers

1:15.4

are behind the black will know most of these issues. When Orion went in 22 on that unmanned

1:22.0

mission, when it came back, it came back with serious damage to the heat shield, much more than they expected. In fact,

1:29.6

large chunks came off. NASA has not changed the heat shield. To fix or replace the heat shield

1:37.8

would cause several years delay in the program. It instead decided it's going to fly the next

1:44.1

mission with the same

1:45.2

type of heat shield, but change the flight directory slightly in a way that they think will

1:51.9

reduce the damage. Now, that might be true, but they don't really understand why this heat shield

1:57.5

had these problems with chunks breaking off, and to put crew on a mission to the

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