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This is John Batchel.

H.W. Brand's new book, America First, Roosevelt v. Lindberg, in the Shadow of War.

It's May, 1941.

Roosevelt goes on the air, baseball games stop, theater stops, movies stop, everybody listens on loudspeakers.

He declares a state of national emergency. It's unclear what it means to Lindberg and the America first, except for it's obvious that the U.S. is going to start

producing planes and weapons as it has never before, and the America First Committee has

work ahead of it to hold America back from the war. It believes, and Lindberg is the star.

Much more of this tonight. FTR versus

Lindberg. So the first thing he wants to do is to ramp up the production of arms. And the

production of arms will be to send more arms to Britain, but also to have more arms for the United

States. At this point, he is saying, well, America may need to defend itself

if attacked. But he's also thinking America needs to be prepared to go on the attack, to go into

war in Europe. And so this, a national emergency is putting American industry on a wartime footing,

but also putting the American mind, the American

people on a wartime footing. They're, okay, prepare for war. Until this point, Roosevelt has

taken the position that the war is over there and he's going to do his best to keep the war over

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