This is CBSI in the world.

I'm John Batchel with Colonel Jeff McCawson,

United States Army retired author Jeff McCawson of the book

Battle Test at Gettysburg Leadership Lessons for the 21st Century Leaders.

We come to the payoff, the third day of the battle.

Lee orders an assault on the center of the

union line. And Jeff, is it still in Lee's mind on that third day with all of the losses?

I think some units were 50% down, all of the losses that he can still overwhelm the Union Army

and win the war here.

Is he thinking that on the third day?

Well, it certainly seems to be the case, John, what he thinks.

I think he thinks this is also one of our last opportunities.

And what I find fascinating, though, is best we can piece together what he says and does

with the subordinates.

He keeps that, though, to himself.

And it seems to me he might have inspired Longstreet in particular, who's the key core commander for this faithful attack,

if he had simply said, you know, Pete, this is, I think, our last opportunity for a major success.

And we've got to take an enormous amount of risk in that regard.

And I use that to talk about the difference between risk and gamble. And those are different things. If you go to gamble, you'll go to Las Vegas and you'll throw ivory or you'll play with cards. Risk is a matter of calculation, the possible great loss, but possible great success that all organizations have to make. You're not going to risk the very existence of your organization over something that's trivial,

but you might risk a large portion of the existence of your organization over something that was truly decisive for its very purpose.

And clearly, getting independence, winning the war was what Robert

Lee thought was the case, and therefore he's going to take this enormous risk. Secondly, I think

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