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S8 Ep272: MCNAMARA AND JOHNSON'S DANGEROUS FEEDBACK LOOP Colleague William Taubman. Following JFK's assassination, Lyndon Johnson retained McNamara, relying on his efficiency and self-confidence to counter his own insecurities and depressive episodes. A dangerous f

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 1 January 2026

⏱️ 10 minutes

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MCNAMARA AND JOHNSON'S DANGEROUS FEEDBACK LOOP Colleague William Taubman. Following JFK's assassination, Lyndon Johnson retained McNamara, relying on his efficiency and self-confidence to counter his own insecurities and depressive episodes. A dangerous feedback loop developed where McNamara, eager to please his new boss, adopted Johnson's "tone for action" regarding Vietnam, providing brilliant arguments for escalation that reinforced Johnson's instincts to fight. Johnson came to view McNamara as his "fair-haired boy," utilizing him for everything from the war effort to domestic projects and even considering him for the Vice Presidency. NUMBER 5
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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World.

0:08.5

Here's John Batchelor.

0:12.1

This is CBSI on the world.

0:14.5

I'm John Batchel.

0:15.6

Continuing with Professor William Taubman, Bill Taubman,

0:18.7

of Amherst College with his brother Philip Taubman, and published aman, of Amherst College, with his brother Philip Taubman,

0:22.1

have published a new book about McNamaran War.

0:25.5

It's revelatory, however, of the whole of the catastrophe of Vietnam.

0:29.8

In addition, it tells us a deal about the Kennedy administration and the Johnson administration

0:34.6

that this poor reader has never seen before, and I believe

0:38.8

there is information here that no one's seen before about the relationship of the

0:43.5

cognoscenti, the elite of the Kennedy years and the Johnson years, which tend to have

0:49.8

overlaps.

0:50.9

We begin, however, with the man at the center now, Lyndon Baines Johnson, who never expected to be president.

0:59.6

He was morose as vice president because his job he thought in his life was to be number one.

1:06.6

He's born to a man named Sam and a mother named Rebecca.

1:11.9

That relationship, Rebecca and Sam, are something that is inside Lyndon and Baines Johnson,

1:18.3

so he recognizes the astute learning as a good thing.

1:23.0

His mother had that.

1:24.4

And he also recognizes people who push hard. His father had that. But something happened

1:30.1

on the way to the rich house. They wound up in a poor house. Why, Bill? Continuing the story

1:36.6

of McNamara, we have to explore Lyndon Johnson. Why did the Johnson family lose its money? How did it

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