Well, I mean, they understood West Berlin and the Americans understood the passion that these North Vietnamese troops had for what they were doing.

But what was, as the historian, what was the most interesting to me about the battle was that the North Vietnamese were not throwing themselves away.

They still launched these human wave attacks,

but usually against a vulnerable point. Remember this, this, uh, 30 seconds, Jeff, 30 seconds.

Yeah, they, these, these Americans were surrounded. And what the North Vietnamese do is they get

right up into the American perimeter, really close. And then you mentioned the lost platoon.

They get, they wrap themselves around that lost platoon on the right flank as well. And then you mentioned the lost platoon. They wrap themselves

around that lost platoon on the right flank as well. And they make it impossible for the Americans

to use their supporting fires, artillery, tactical air, without bombing and shelling their own guys.

And so clearly, and so they see this that from captured prisoners interrogated after the battle,

this is going to be the plan. Cling to the Americans, hold them by the belt so they can't use their supporting fires.