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S8 Ep270: LEND-LEASE AND BRITISH PROPAGANDA Colleague H.W. Brands. H.W. Brands explains the passage of the Lend-Lease Act (HR 1776), which effectively ended American neutrality by committing industrial resources to Britain. The segment reveals the covert British pr

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🗓️ 2 January 2026

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LEND-LEASE AND BRITISH PROPAGANDA Colleague H.W. Brands. H.W. Brands explains the passage of the Lend-Lease Act (HR 1776), which effectively ended American neutrality by committing industrial resources to Britain. The segment reveals the covert British propaganda campaign led by William Stephenson to manipulate US opinion. Brands also describes how FDR utilized a likely forged map of a German-partitioned South America to frighten Americans, while Lindbergh argued that aiding Britain was supporting imperialism rather than democracy. NUMBER 5
1936 FDR IN NORTH DAKOTA

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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World. Here's John Batchelor.

0:10.0

Continuing with Professor H.W. Brands, Bill Brands. His new book is America First, Roosevelt v. Lindbergh in the Shadow of War.

0:19.0

These two men are as famous as the solar system as we begin

0:23.2

1941. Franklin Delano Roosevelt having won his third term, making remarks that I will not send your

0:30.6

son to die in a foreign war, knowing the whole time that the foreign war is beckoning, beckoning the U.S.

0:38.9

Our fleet is involved already providing some comfort to so-called hemispheric defense,

0:46.3

but really it's a question of helping the Brits.

0:49.3

Our fleet is involved certainly having been moved the power of it to Hawaii.

0:54.1

There is foreshadowing for you in 1940 and 41 to hold off the Japanese who are making inroads

1:01.9

directing at the British Empire.

1:04.8

We're keen on Congress now.

1:07.3

The battle takes itself to the representatives.

1:10.0

H.R. 1776, January 10th, 1941. What is that,

1:15.7

Professor? Thank you. So this presents to Congress what will be the Lend-Leese Act. There's a great

1:22.0

irony here because HR 1776, of course, it's indicative of American independence, except 1776 was when

1:31.2

America declared independence from Britain, said we're not British anymore, and we're separating

1:37.0

ourselves from the British. But in fact, by this bill, Roosevelt intended to marry America's

1:42.4

future to Britain's future. One of the parts of the neutrality

1:47.0

legislation of the 1930s said that the United States will not extend loans to the belligerents.

1:53.3

So if they could pay cash after the arms embargo was lifted, Roosevelt successfully got that removed,

2:00.7

they still ran up against the

2:02.0

problem of can you pay for this stuff. And this was going to be a severe crimp because the war had

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