S8 Ep268: THE EARLY LIFE OF XI ZHONGXUN Colleague Joseph Torigian. Joseph Torigian introduces the early life of Xi Zhongxun, father of Xi Jinping. Born in 1913 in poverty-stricken Shaanxi province, Xi grew up surrounded by famine and warlord violence. Torigian reco
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 2 January 2026
⏱️ 10 minutes
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1913 DOWAGER EMPRESS CIXI
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBS Eye on the World. |
| 0:08.5 | Here's John Batchelor. |
| 0:10.8 | Chez-Jen-Peg, much in the news, |
| 0:12.6 | the General Secretary of the People's Republic of China |
| 0:15.3 | for an unprecedented third term in the 21st century. |
| 0:20.7 | We travel now to the 20th century, very early in the second |
| 0:24.4 | decade, thanks to Joseph Tarigian. His new book, The Party Interest Come First, is a biography of |
| 0:31.7 | Xi Jinping's father, a profile of his family, and a glimpse through the eyes of the protagonist, Xi Jong-shun, |
| 0:41.8 | of the transformation of China into the success today, except the unknowns are very large, |
| 0:51.5 | and Joseph helps me understand some of them. |
| 0:56.7 | Joseph, a very good evening, too. |
| 1:03.3 | You are an associate professor at the School of International Service at the American University, and you published a book that is overwhelming to me, a first-time reader of |
| 1:10.7 | Chinese communist history. I congratulate you |
| 1:14.1 | and look immediately to understand this without any Freudianism. I'm not projecting here, |
| 1:21.3 | but fathers and sons. In the West, we regard this as a profound relationship that explains a deal. Hence, we have |
| 1:30.5 | dramas that talk about edible complexes or not. Do they have the same thinking in China about fathers |
| 1:38.6 | and sons? Good evening to you, Joseph. Thank you so much for having me. There is a famous aphorism in Chinese that says, |
| 1:47.4 | if there is a son like that, then he must have had a father like this. So there is a similar |
| 1:52.6 | view in China that you can learn a lot from the father about the son. And of course, |
| 1:58.1 | it's a Confucian society in which the father plays a crucial |
| 2:01.4 | role in the family. So I don't want to project too much, but wow, the drama here. Let's begin. |
| 2:07.6 | 1913, our protagonist, whose name is Zhang Shun, first name, Xi, is born into what he describes himself as a poor peasant family in shanshi province what does that look like in 1913 |
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