S8 Ep256: THE COLLAPSE OF 1989 AND THE MODERN AUTHORITARIAN PIVOT Colleague Professor Sean McMeekin. In the final segment, McMeekin challenges the narrative that the 1989 collapse was solely a popular uprising. Instead, he argues it was a "top-down disintegration"

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THE COLLAPSE OF 1989 AND THE MODERN AUTHORITARIAN PIVOT Colleague Professor Sean McMeekin. In the final segment, McMeekin challenges the narrative that the 1989 collapse was solely a popular uprising. Instead, he argues it was a "top-down disintegration" caused by the withdrawal of Soviet force via the "Sinatra Doctrine" (letting satellites go their own way). Regimes fell because security forces mutinied or stood down, not merely because of protests. Regarding modern Russia, McMeekin notes that while Putin has jettisoned Lenin, he retains a nostalgia for Stalin as a "builder" of state power. The conversation concludes with a warning: while traditional communism relied on extreme violence, modern authoritarian regimes, particularly China, may now use advanced surveillance technology to achieve total control without the same level of overt bloodshed. NUMBER 8

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0:36.2	We started with gentlemen severalmen several hours ago,
0:39.8	talking about the violence visited upon the students in Tiananmen in 1989 that has banished
0:46.4	from even conversation on Chinese media today. However, 1989 was a year in which a lot of
0:52.9	shibbolists fell away, the Berlin story.
0:57.1	And I go to Romania because there were, there was a couple there named the Kochescus
1:01.9	who had practiced violence against their own people for years.
1:05.2	Romania remains poor these decades later, but it was extremely poor at the time,
1:09.6	despite the fact that it opened up
1:11.7	enough to welcome Richard Nixon at one point in the 1970s. However, the Kotescu's stayed in
1:18.4	power with violence until they killed too many or something happened, and the people pushed back
1:24.2	hard. And the Kotescu's were executed ignominously as they were trying
1:30.0	to escape or as people had just abducted them.
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