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S8 Ep233: PREVIEW WARNING AGAINST FRAGMENTED STATE-LEVEL AI REGULATION Colleague Kevin Frazier. Kevin Frazier, a University of Texas Law School fellow, warns against fragmented AI regulation by individual states seeking tax revenue. He advocates for a national fram

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🗓️ 23 December 2025

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PREVIEW WARNING AGAINST FRAGMENTED STATE-LEVEL AI REGULATION Colleague Kevin Frazier. Kevin Frazier, a University of Texas Law School fellow, warns against fragmented AI regulation by individual states seeking tax revenue. He advocates for a national framework rather than hasty local laws, arguing that allowing technology to develop through "trial and error" is superior to heavy-handed, immediate restrictions.

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0:00.0

This is John Batchel, a conversation with colleague Kevin Fraser of the University of Texas Law School

0:05.5

fellow there looking at AI and how it is being regarded by legislatures, by individuals, by corporations, by the future.

0:16.5

AI now faces a regulatory gamut in Europe and in America. The concern here is that there'll be

0:23.8

50 different states looking to AI for income, for taxes. And the way to do that is to regulate

0:30.5

and fine. The way to do that is to restrict use until you pay for it. Regulation for AI, 50 states plus the United States, plus whatever else

0:40.7

comes down from the various agencies and associations that are created in Washington.

0:47.9

All of this to get a hold of the AI and restrict it in some fashion to make it pay. Here's Kevin worrying about the future at

0:59.2

AI. More of this tonight. Well, it's very much my hope that Congress will step in and provide a national

1:07.9

framework for AI regulation as called for by President Trump in his recent

1:12.5

AI executive order, and as acknowledged as a necessary step by many of the state legislators

1:18.7

who are rushing ahead with state AI regulations.

1:22.3

John, you really made a great point when you stress that there's a inclination among us to expect that the law and more law is the right answer to developing and adopting new technologies like AI.

1:38.5

But we've seen over time that a far more reliable strategy is in fact trial and error.

1:45.5

Allowing for technology to diffuse and to be used in novel contexts is often the best way we find out

1:52.5

what are the pros, what are the cons before we come in with heavy-handed laws that oftentimes

1:58.5

never get removed off the books.

2:00.9

And so I am fearful that states are rushing ahead with regulation rather than studying AI.

2:08.8

And that's a far more difficult task that requires more intellectual humility and more

2:14.5

institutional capacity.

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