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S8 Ep233: PREVIEW PEGGY SHIPPEN'S CUNNING DECEPTION DURING THE ARNOLD CONSPIRACY Colleague Richard Bell. Historian Richard Bell discusses his book on the American Revolution, focusing on the cunning of Peggy Shippen. Bell describes how Shippen, Benedict Arnold's wi

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John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 23 December 2025

⏱️ 3 minutes

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PREVIEW PEGGY SHIPPEN'S CUNNING DECEPTION DURING THE ARNOLD CONSPIRACY Colleague Richard Bell. Historian Richard Bell discusses his book on the American Revolution, focusing on the cunning of Peggy Shippen. Bell describes how Shippen, Benedict Arnold's wife, successfully feigned hysteria and madness to deceive Continental Army officers, effectively hiding her complicity in the treasonous conspiracy while shifting all suspicion onto her husband.

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0:00.0

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0:02.8

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0:08.6

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0:11.1

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0:15.5

This is John Batchel, speaking to the historian and professor Richard Bell, his new book, The American Revolution

0:22.7

and the fate of the world, scene after scene of revolutionary fervor from different points

0:28.6

of view, fresh points of view. And in this particular instance, it's the point of view of

0:34.1

a woman who marries Benedict Arnold, Peggy, Peggy Shippin of Philadelphia,

0:41.2

a young and beautiful woman, blonde hair, extremely attractive to men. She winds up deciding

0:48.5

Benedict Arnold, Governor General of Philadelphia, war hero, is her man. And on the day he is caught betraying his country and flees,

0:59.8

there is a scene that clearly was written in heaven,

1:05.2

and we have it to entertain us now.

1:07.5

Here's the professor giving.

1:09.3

What we know of the scene from the point of view of

1:12.0

the men who came to arrest Benedict Donald and found the beautiful Peggy having just given birth to

1:18.0

a child in her nightgown in the headquarters at West Point, the residence next to the headquarters.

1:26.4

And Peggy on stage is much more of this than the new book.

1:31.6

I enjoy it enormously, and the professor does a wonderful job of presenting it here.

1:38.3

Peggy Shippman, take the stage. More of this.

1:42.9

This drama takes place in the residence next to West Point on the morning of

1:48.0

Arnold's defection. Arnold flees on a horse having almost been caught in the act. His young wife Peggy

1:55.7

with their newborn child is stuck in the residence and suddenly senior continental army officers are rushing up there

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