S8 Ep205: General Blaine Holt warns that integrating Artificial Intelligence into military command increases the risks of deliberate, inadvertent, and accidental escalation. He argues that while AI accelerates decision-making, it lacks human judgment, potentially l
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🗓️ 18 December 2025
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2933 BANK OF UNITED STSTES FAILURE
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBS. I on the world. I'm John Batchel. The Wars of the Future. The proverb from many centuries |
| 0:14.0 | is that generals always fight the last war, not the war that's in front of them. And there describes a deal of setbacks and |
| 0:23.4 | disappointments and tragedies in the last centuries. The question now is, what is the next war |
| 0:30.2 | look like? Does it look like Ukraine with drones and hyper-drive missiles and teams of three |
| 0:36.7 | and five advancing from tree line to tree line, |
| 0:39.6 | sometimes sharing the tree line with the adversaries, sometimes sharing the building with the |
| 0:45.3 | adversary. Is that the next war? Or is it something to do with artificial intelligence? |
| 0:50.1 | There's a new article that I recommend to everyone looking to the future. |
| 0:58.6 | That would be the year 2050 to me, something I will not see, but I can posture. |
| 1:06.5 | The article is about AI and the fear of escalating war, and by that they mean nuclear weapons. |
| 1:14.2 | It's just published, and I welcome General Blaine Holt, United States Air Force retired, to help me understand this story. |
| 1:18.2 | I've only ever read about war games, sometimes called Tabletops. |
| 1:28.2 | This anticipates experience with war games and how AI introduced into war games complicates all planning. |
| 1:35.3 | The article begins with the general understanding that escalation is the problem. |
| 1:39.4 | Whether you use nukes or not, escalation is the problem. |
| 1:43.0 | And AI must be factored into escalation. |
| 1:45.6 | General Blaine, a very good evening to you. |
| 1:48.9 | The article begins by saying there are three types of escalation, |
| 1:51.3 | and I want to go through them one at a time and understand them. |
| 1:54.7 | The first is deliberate escalation. |
| 1:59.4 | States choose to initiate conflict because they think they have a first strike advantage and can win their objective by |
| 2:01.8 | preemptively attacking. That sounds like an aggressor, a predator. Something like Russia attacked |
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