S8 Ep201: Joseph Sternberg challenges the Trump administration's antagonistic view of the EU, citing polls showing the institution remains popular among Europeans. He argues that US policy should not be based on the expectation of the EU's collapse, noting that the

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🗓️ 17 December 2025

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Joseph Sternberg challenges the Trump administration's antagonistic view of the EU, citing polls showing the institution remains popular among Europeans. He argues that US policy should not be based on the expectation of the EU's collapse, noting that the UK's exit was unique to its specific history and not a continental trend.
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0:00.0	This is CBS Eye on the World. Here's John Batchelor.
0:12.3	This is CBSI on the world. I'm John Batchelor. I welcome Joseph Sternberg, my colleague. He is in London.
0:18.9	He writes for the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal,
0:21.5	where he's a member of the editorial board.
0:23.6	His column is Political Economics.
0:26.2	And within these last days, he has published a column reminding the United States
0:31.9	that the EU not only is our ally, but also has different ambitions than the United States, and that doesn't make it
0:39.5	at odds with us. It just means that their vision of the future is different than the U.S.
0:45.4	We begin with question of, is it popular? Is the European Union, 27 states, joined in a common
0:53.9	purpose, is it popular among the people who are served by it? the European Union, 27 states, joined in a common purpose.
0:55.0	Is it popular among the people who are served by it?
0:58.7	Joe, a very good evening to you.
1:00.2	Thank you.
1:01.1	The U.Gov poll says yes.
1:03.0	Do we trust the U.Gov poll?
1:04.6	And what do we make of the fact that what is popular is also often knocked by the people
1:10.3	who are in favor of it. Good evening to you.
1:14.0	Hey, John. Yes. I mean, I think that the key point is that the European Union as an institution
1:19.8	does seem to be much more popular among actual, real live, living, breathing Europeans than I
1:26.7	think a lot of Americans would expect.
1:29.1	And this is important because we're talking about this against the backdrop of that
1:32.9	national security strategy that the Trump administration released a couple weeks ago now.
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