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S8 Ep199: PREVIEW: Joseph Sternberg cautions that American conservatives often mistakenly view the United Kingdom as culturally similar to the US, despite its "European" attitudes toward regulation and welfare. He argues that Britain's post-Brexit difficulties have

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 16 December 2025

⏱️ 3 minutes

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PREVIEW: Joseph Sternberg cautions that American conservatives often mistakenly view the United Kingdom as culturally similar to the US, despite its "European" attitudes toward regulation and welfare. He argues that Britain's post-Brexit difficulties have likely deterred other European nations from leaving the European Union.
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0:00.0

This is John Batchelor. What did the Europeans learn from Brexit when Great Britain voted by not a big margin to leave the European Union some 10 years ago?

0:14.4

Joseph Sternberg, who was a member of the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal, he's in London, observing lessons learned.

0:22.4

And also this reflects on the European Union states in the EU, 27 of them, and their decision to stay in the

0:29.7

EU. The U.S. takes one lesson, Europe takes another. Here's Joe to explain. Is the EU popular in the EU? Is the doubt that is

0:42.7

expressed by the Trump administration on the EU? Is that informed by the UK having left,

0:49.9

where there are now large regrets having left. Much more of this tonight.

0:55.8

Here's Joe.

0:56.8

Well, I do think that American conservatives in general,

1:01.8

and the Trump administration in particular,

1:04.1

often have to be careful about the United Kingdom.

1:08.2

Because I think that the tendency is to think that the United Kingdom is more like us Americans than other Europeans.

1:18.0

The Brits have more of our free market tradition or traditions of political freedom.

1:25.1

And we also, you know, American conservatives in particular tend to absorb a lot of

1:32.8

conservative media and political discussion from the UK that is particularly hostile to the EU.

1:40.8

And I think that the notes of caution about that are, first off, one thing that Britain has learned

1:46.6

with a crash over the past 10 years, actually in terms of public attitudes toward regulation

1:52.6

and the state and the economy and social welfare spending and the rest of it, Britain itself

1:58.6

is much more European than American. So I think already you have this

2:03.5

issue, the UK and the US are very similar in a lot of respects, but we're also very different

2:09.1

in a lot of ways. I think Americans need to be aware of that. And I think that we also need to

2:15.3

understand that Britain has a very different history with

2:19.5

regard to the EU and had a very different relationship with the EU, you know, when Britain

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