I'm John Bachelor.

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It's a pleasure to speak Navy with a professional.

Captain Jerry Hendricks, the United States Navy, Aviator retired.

His new book is to provide and maintain a Navy,

while Naval Primacy is America's

first best strategy. Jerry, you have a moment of a projection of a conflict that looks unsolvable

to me and amateur. What it is is it combines the close sea, the Meraclosum, the territorial sea Maraclosum, with the capability of the PLA Navy and the Russian Navy to force or challenge or back away U.S. Navy operations, a freedom of navigation operation, and say, don't come back, you're out of here.

And therefore, and they're covered by their land-based cruise missiles.

There are land-based missiles that are carrier killers or Guam killers.

Right now, do we have an answer to that, Jerry, if it comes to physical confrontation in the South China

Sea, the East China Sea, the Philippines Sea? Well, I think we do, actually. And it's something that

the last administration made abundantly clear to the Chinese and to the Russians in more ways than

one. The Chinese economy is, unlike the

American economy, is totally dependent on both external sources of raw resources as well as external

markets. And by that, I mean that China is dependent upon the Middle East for its oil. It does not have enough coal or oil within its own borders to be able to run its economy autonomously.

And so it has to bring that oil in from the Middle East or from other sources, and by and large it has to come by ocean.

They are building some pipelines over land, but those pipelines

will not have the capacity to deliver the amount of oil per day that they need, oil or natural grass.

Same thing on oars. China is not an ore or raw resources-rich nation at this point in time

and its history. And so, you know, China has to import raw resources

from Africa, from Australia, as well as from South America. In fact, they've created an entire

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