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S8 Ep157: Maduro's Tenuous Position — Gregory Copley — Copley asserts that Nicolás Maduro's political position has become increasingly tenuous following U.S. designation of Venezuelan airspace as a no-fly zone and the systematic loss of Maduro's regional political

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🗓️ 3 December 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Maduro's Tenuous PositionGregory CopleyCopley asserts that Nicolás Maduro's political position has become increasingly tenuous following U.S. designation of Venezuelan airspace as a no-fly zone and the systematic loss of Maduro's regional political allies among Latin American governments. Copley suggests that Maduro strategically hopes American domestic political divisions will constrain President Trump's willingness to execute military intervention, providing temporal window for regime consolidation. Copley emphasizes that with both China and Russiaweakened by their respective strategic overextensions, Maduro lacks external patrons capable of sustaining his regime, making exile increasingly likely as Trump administration pressure intensifies.
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0:00.0

This is CBS Eye on the World.

0:08.5

Here's John Batchelor.

0:12.4

This is CBSI on the world.

0:14.4

I'm John Batchelor.

0:15.4

I welcome my colleague and mentor Gregory Copley,

0:18.3

the editor and publisher of Defense and Foreign Affairs,

0:23.0

the author of the new book, Noble State,

0:32.8

about the authority of constitutional monarchy, certainly since the 17th century. However, we begin with a problem for the President of the United States,

0:39.3

a product of the 17th and 18th century, the president's, which is Venezuela, in part,

0:46.2

really the whole region dominated by narco-terror gangs these last years with no certain authority to confront them, except the fleet off of Venezuela. The fleet includes a super, supercarrier,

0:53.2

lots of missiles, lots of marine expeditionary units, lots of aircraft.

0:57.9

But that is war war, and it's not been used so far.

1:02.1

What we have are headlines suggesting that the President of the United States has given a very clear warning to Maduro leave.

1:09.8

And we're not trading for something if you leave.

1:13.3

You leave now.

1:14.1

Why can the president say that?

1:16.2

Because there's an elected president, his name is Gonzalez.

1:19.4

He was elected in the summer of 2024 before Maduro and his brutal regime stole the election.

1:27.2

The president of Venezuela, Gonzalez Gonzalez will be in us,

1:31.7

so I'm told by the opposition in these next days,

1:35.2

to witness the Nobel Peace Prize being awarded to Maria Karina Machado,

1:39.7

the leader of the opposition.

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