S8 Ep153: Ukraine Talks Lack Firm Position Amid Russian Maximalist Demands — John Batchelor, Bill Roggio, John Hardie — Batchelor reports that US Envoy Witkoff is proceeding to Moscow for negotiations, but the American and Ukrainian negotiating positions remain uns
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John Batchelor
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🗓️ 2 December 2025
⏱️ 13 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBS Eye on the World. Here's John Batchelor. Bill Rajo, my good colleague and co-respondent. |
| 0:14.0 | He keeps the Long War Journal. He's a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracy. |
| 0:19.3 | And someone who reports on FDD routinely every week. |
| 0:24.1 | John Hardy joins us. |
| 0:25.4 | John is our eyes on Ukraine. |
| 0:28.3 | The story has become very complicated and with different channels these last days. |
| 0:33.4 | I begin with headlines out of Reuters to show how different the headlines can look. |
| 0:40.0 | Europeans rally around Ukraine as Trump envoy heads to Moscow. |
| 0:44.2 | That would be Mr. Whitkoff. |
| 0:46.1 | Or Kremlin says Ukraine's strike on CPC terminal was outrageous given its international importance. |
| 0:53.2 | And Kazakhstan tells Ukraine to stop attacking oil |
| 0:57.0 | terminal. Ukraine enjoying drone success will come to that. But I begin with negotiation or diplomacy |
| 1:04.6 | or talks. John, there have been talks in Florida, I believe attended by Mr. Rubio. |
| 1:11.0 | There have been talks in Geneva. I'm not attended by Mr. Rubio. There have been talks in Geneva. |
| 1:12.8 | I'm not sure who was in attendance, but it was the U.S. and Moscow exchanging thoughts. |
| 1:18.6 | And now Mr. Whitkoff is headed to Moscow. |
| 1:21.5 | There might be more I'm missing out on. |
| 1:24.1 | Is there a general theme for these talks? |
| 1:26.9 | Are they going in different directions to your knowledge? |
| 1:29.7 | Good evening to you. |
| 1:31.2 | Before we discuss Sunday's talks, it was probably useful just to give a little bit of background |
| 1:36.1 | for folks who haven't been following this closely. |
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