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S8 Ep150: 1/3. The Peace Debate — In a Londinium wine bar during a storm in 91 AD, Gaius and Germanicus philosophize about service and contemporary geopolitics, centering on the modern concept of "peace," particularly regarding Ukraine despite ongoing conflicts in

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🗓️ 1 December 2025

⏱️ 14 minutes

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1/3. The Peace Debate — In a Londinium wine bar during a storm in 91 AD, Gaius and Germanicus philosophize about service and contemporary geopolitics, centering on the modern concept of "peace," particularly regarding Ukrainedespite ongoing conflicts in Venezuela and Hezbollah rearmament. Germanicus asserts that "peace" functions as a euphemism for defeat, deployed by the side facing inevitable submission to avoid public humiliation. Germanicus argues that Russia's protracted attrition strategy is culminating, evidenced by recent media reports of meteoric desertions and massive irrecoverable casualties exceeding 40,000 Ukrainian soldiers monthly, suggesting Ukraine approaches structural collapse. Gaius emphasizes that Europe lacks deployable military capacity and sustained fighting capability, necessitating a negotiated peace settlement to avoid the humiliation of military defeat. Germanicus notes that neoconservatives remain unusually silent, lacking control of the current administration, establishment Democraticinfluence, and weakened by collateral damage from Israel's Gaza campaign to their "endless war" doctrine. Gaiuscontends that the United States' only viable leverage for Russia involves promises of economic investment, reestablishing European energy linkages, and modernizing resource extraction through joint ventures. Germanicusidentifies three conditions for a viable treaty: Ukrainian neutrality, Russian reintegration, and attractive arrangements regarding Donbass, coupled with Ukraine affirming non-discrimination toward Russian-speaking populations. 1968

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0:00.0

I am Gaius. I'm in Lunditian. It is live on a gloomy night. And we're going to speak of regicide,

0:07.9

which has everybody perking up in the back of the room. Dramaticus is here. Not any regicide.

0:14.2

The regicide of 1642 to 1649, sometimes known as the English Civil War, the Civil War Britain.

0:22.0

The conditions are these.

0:24.0

The long parliament, so-called because it never recessed,

0:27.7

has claimed prerogatives that Charles I,

0:33.1

the King inheriting the crown from his father, James I,

0:36.4

the First. These are Scots.

0:38.3

They were both born in Edinburgh,

0:40.2

but they rule Great Britain, Scotland, England, Wales, Ireland.

0:46.8

These are Scots now, and so they're not exactly local boys to the English.

0:52.8

There's a division of Catholic and Protestant,

0:55.0

the Church of England.

0:57.0

There are dissenters,

0:58.3

but we're not going to bother with them right now.

1:01.0

They come up later called Puritans.

1:03.5

We're going to spend time with regicide itself

1:06.8

because the king entertained killing his enemies in 1641, 42.

1:14.6

He tried to trap two of his Scottish embassies at Hollywood,

1:18.6

enemies at Hollywood House, and he was betrayed, and didn't happen.

1:22.6

He had to claim he wasn't. He was going to kill them.

1:25.6

That was Charles' way of solving things.

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