I'm John Bachelor with Professor Dan Flores.

The book is Wild New World, the epic story of animals and people in America.

The man's name is Sir William Drummond Stewart.

He began a safari, a luxurious safari in the West, middle of the 19th century. And what results from it

is a massacre of animals, not only in excess of what you need to eat, but really what it looks like

is serial killing, a mass massacre that has no justification in human history.

The reason I mention him is that he's not alone, but you go on to detail, and I'm not going

to read how much he took. He becomes a model for the other adventures who come in the latter

part of the century when the railroad makes it available to reach montanor

to reach colorado was there any chastising of of stewart uh when they read about him back east

or when they read about him in europe anybody say why are you doing this i don't find any evidence

that uh anyone confronted William Drummond Stewart or

St. George Gore or any of the other, usually nobleman from Ireland or Great Britain,

who regarded the American West, particularly the Great Plains part of the American West,

which was our analog of the Serengeti or the Maasai Mara as this destination to sheet animals.

I don't find that anyone other than an occasional cartoonist in a newspaper ever really castigates these people for doing this.

It's the same thing they're doing in Africa, of course, during the same period of time.

It's the beginning of what we call the safari. The safari is a Swahili word. So it's an African

word that we don't start using really commonly until the 1850s.

In writing about this particular experience in the West, I call on readers of the book to think of

having watched out of Africa.

Robert Redford, the White Hunter in Africa, and this, of course, is in a later

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