S8 Ep127: /4. Ukraine Diplomacy, NATO Defense Gaps, and Baltic War Games — Gregory Copley — Copley analyzes the opaque U.S.-Russia Ukraine peace talks, which initially involved non-traditional negotiators rather than career diplomats. European powers are seeking i

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1/4. Ukraine Diplomacy, NATO Defense Gaps, and Baltic War Games — Gregory Copley — Copley analyzes the opaque U.S.-Russia Ukraine peace talks, which initially involved non-traditional negotiators rather than career diplomats. European powers are seeking inclusion in discussions but maintain conflicting strategic objectives. The discussion covers NATO's eroding relevance, particularly regarding Ireland's vulnerability to Russian surveillance and potential sabotage of critical undersea communication cables. Copley assesses a war game scenario in which Russia directly challenges NATO's Article 5 collective defense commitment in the Baltics.

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0:00.0	This is CBS Eye on the World. Here's John Batchelor.
0:11.6	This is CBS I on the World. I'm John Patchler.
0:15.2	Ukraine Contest. I welcome Gregory Copley, Defense and Foreign Affairs, the author of the new book,
0:20.8	Noble State, about constitutional monarchy.
0:23.1	We will address an update of the King Charles report at the close of this hour.
0:28.4	However, we begin with the tumbling headlines about Ukraine.
0:32.9	This is London headlines.
0:35.0	Trump, Ukraine peace deal very close. Or Starmor, peace talks moving in the right
0:41.4	direction. Or Keefe agrees to cap the size of the army at 800,000. Or Russia could reject
0:50.1	modified U.S. stance, says Sergei Lavrov, writing that he must, you must not remove an
0:56.8	understanding that Putin and Trump arrived at in their Alaska talks. Putin, whereas he,
1:03.1	is in Kyrgyzstan to meet with the Belarusian leader who, we're told, has nuclear weapons
1:09.6	in his country. There are other remarks by other
1:13.1	members of the EU and NATO. Macron is not willing at this point to accept what he's seen
1:18.8	of the deal. Europe in general is moving around between Brussels and Paris and other capitals
1:26.0	to discuss this, even though it is apparent that the Americans
1:29.9	didn't anticipate Europe would have a voice, not in the initial drawing stage.
1:35.6	The 28 points of the first day were now reduced to 19 points of the second day.
1:41.5	We don't know how many points are underway as a talk continues between
1:46.3	the White House and Kremlin. A lot of this is not transparent. So I go to Gregory to help me
1:53.1	understand what I should be watching for. As diplomats know weigh in, the initial 28-point plan
2:00.6	was drawn up by men who are not accustomed for diplomats know way in, the initial 28-point plan was drawn up by men who were not accustomed
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