Welcome to Live Well Anyway. I'm your host, Mackenzie Kappa. If you're new here, this is a podcast

geared towards women who want to feel healthy, look good, and stay organized. We tend to lean a little bit

crunchy, but want to stay modern and pulled together at the same time. We talk a lot about

planning, beauty, wellness,

hobbies, and everything in between. We're real women doing our best to live well anyway in the

midst of life's chaos. I'm so glad you're here. Today I have my good friend Katie Duckett on the show

and we are talking about how to get through when the rug gets ripped out from under you or when

hard things happen and you really have to grapple with those things and maybe even deal with a

little bit of survival mode or a lot of bit of survival mode and how to get through those things

well and not have it take you under forever I think that I have had a lot of practice. And recently,

just even in this last week, I've had a lot of things happen that have made life really difficult

again. And it can be really difficult to wade through those things and know how to get through

them. But I think that Katie and I have found a lot of helpful tips over the years that have

made them at least a little bit better during these times and what we cling to and how we

change our perspective. So this episode is filled with everything from the practical things to the

mindset kinds of things and the sleep things, the self-care things, kind of everything in between.

So I hope this is a beneficial episode to any of you who find yourself in those kinds of situations.

And if we're being honest, I think that we all do from time to time.

We all go through different things.

Yours might not be the same as mine, but we all face hard

situations where it can just be hard to want to get up in the morning. And these are the things

that we have learned to help those days be a little bit better, those days, those weeks,

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