S8 Ep1118: The Moscow Summit: Stalin and Mao's Suspicious Alliance GUEST: Nick Bunker In late 1949, Mao Zedong traveled to Moscow seeking Joseph Stalin's sponsorship for the nascent People's Republic of China. Mao required financial aid, an air force, and recognitio

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The Moscow Summit: Stalin and Mao's Suspicious Alliance GUEST: Nick Bunker In late 1949, Mao Zedongtraveled to Moscow seeking Joseph Stalin's sponsorship for the nascent People's Republic of China. Mao required financial aid, an air force, and recognition as an equal leader in the communist world. Stalin, however, was a wary and suspicious character who initially treated Mao with distance to ensure he accepted a subordinate role. Stalin's primary motivations were industrializing China to strengthen communism against the West and securing the Soviet Far East. A breakthrough occurred in January 1950, partially influenced by Britain's early diplomatic recognition of China, which forced Stalin to reach terms with Mao to prevent him from being "seduced" by the West. Stalin ultimately viewed Asiaas the key to the future, seeing potential for communist expansion in Vietnam, Malaya, and Japan. This alliance solidified despite the Soviet leadership's private view of Mao as a "simple peasant" character. (2)

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0:29.6	I'm John Batchel with the historian Nick Bunker.
0:34.6	The new book is in the shadow of fear, America and the world in 1950.
0:39.0	Joseph Stalin is the absolute authority of the Soviet Union. The Soviet Empire can be thought of
0:45.2	its imperialism. Joseph Stalin has ambitions in Asia. One of those ambitions is the People's Republic
0:52.7	of China. Mao has very little, no Air force, no money, no dollars, no cash. He needs Stalin's sponsorship. And what that means is he needs to go to Moscow. Nick, at this point, it becomes extremely mysterious to figure out Stalin one more time. If it was confounding
1:14.5	during the Second War, it was tragic during the 1930s. Stalin and Mao, you present us several
1:22.8	scenes of them dealing with each other in Moscow after Mao finally gets the invitation and travels
1:29.6	there by train. What can we understand now about what Stalin wanted from Mao? Did he see him
1:35.2	as a temporary tool? Did he see him as somebody who was obedient like, say, the Eastern European
1:41.9	leaders? How did he regard him?
1:45.8	Well, fortunately, we know quite a lot about this now because the Soviet archives were opened
1:49.5	during the 1990s. Now, none of the Mr. Putin recently. They appeared have been largely closed
1:53.6	again, but there was a period when the Soviet archives were available to historians. So a greater
1:57.6	work has been done on this subject. Now, what Mao watched, as you said,
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