S8 Ep1112: Josh Dean summarizes Kelly Johnson's 14 rules, emphasizing simplicity and speed. These principles required small teams and minimal paperwork to innovate effectively. Before passing away in 1990, Johnson witnessed a final emotional flyover of his iconic Bl
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🗓️ 10 July 2026
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Josh Dean summarizes Kelly Johnson's 14 rules, emphasizing simplicity and speed. These principles required small teams and minimal paperwork to innovate effectively. Before passing away in 1990, Johnson witnessed a final emotional flyover of his iconic Blackbird, marking the end of a legendary aviation era. (12)
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Bachelor. Josh Steen's new book is The Impossible Factory, The Remarkable True Story of |
| 0:20.9 | Kelly Johnson, built all the aircraft, fought the Second War, fought the Cold War, |
| 0:26.4 | Kelly has retired now fully, and his health deteriorates the last years of his life. However, |
| 0:33.1 | there is the legacy of Kelly's skunkworks, inside that, there were rules that he conveyed to new |
| 0:41.3 | people who were hired on. It was a reputation he had for keeping it simple. There were 14 points. |
| 0:47.9 | We don't need to go through all 14 of them, Josh. Which ones just describe to you the success |
| 0:52.9 | and which ones today are still practiced in what the word bloated doesn't do it anymore, the scale of the contracts today? |
| 1:03.1 | I would say, you know, the best way to describe the 14 rules because they're sort of like nuanced. |
| 1:08.3 | Some of them almost sound like the ones before them. |
| 1:10.9 | Like you could, |
| 1:11.3 | Kelly had a very famous phrase, |
| 1:12.8 | keep it simple, stupid. |
| 1:14.9 | He also said, be, |
| 1:16.0 | be quiet, |
| 1:18.6 | be on time, |
| 1:19.6 | you know, |
| 1:19.8 | be quiet, |
| 1:20.7 | be careful, |
| 1:21.1 | be on time. |
| 1:22.2 | The rules will really describe a philosophy that's about |
| 1:26.2 | use the smallest group of people, give them as much |
| 1:30.5 | authority as you can possibly give them, generate the minimum amount of paperwork, |
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