S8 Ep1112: Cliff May explores the historical link between socialism and Islamism, tracing partnerships from early Bolsheviks to the Iranian Revolution. These alliances often end in violence and purges of leftists, as seen when Ayatollah Khomeini executed communist l
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🗓️ 10 July 2026
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Cliff May explores the historical link between socialism and Islamism, tracing partnerships from early Bolsheviks to the Iranian Revolution. These alliances often end in violence and purges of leftists, as seen when Ayatollah Khomeiniexecuted communist leaders. He warns that these ideologies generally favor oppressive one-party states. (15)
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| 0:00.0 | I'm John Batchler. I welcome my colleague and friend Cliff May, the founder and president of the |
| 0:21.0 | Foundation for the Defense of Democracies. It's 1959 at the United Nations, a gathering of eagles. |
| 0:27.6 | Standing there is a man named Abdul Nasser, the much celebrated leader of Egypt and Syria, and the |
| 0:35.4 | man who's going to remake the Arab world in his own image. He's |
| 0:39.0 | beautifully dressed. A very handsome man with a large bridge of a nose smiling oddly, however. Why? |
| 0:47.1 | Because next to him, they're surrounded by a deep, deep media questions flying over the top of the |
| 0:53.5 | heads of the men in front. |
| 0:55.5 | But standing next to him is a ruffian-looking fellow with an untrimmed beard. |
| 1:01.1 | His fatigue army uniform looks like he's still in bed rather than just rolled out of bed. |
| 1:05.9 | He's got a great big grin on his face and he's talking away to the media while Nassar stands there silently going, |
| 1:12.4 | Who is this guy? |
| 1:13.7 | That guy is Fidel Castro. |
| 1:16.1 | Cliff, a very good evening to you. |
| 1:18.3 | Socialism in the Arab world meets socialism in the Cuban world, and socialism doesn't know what to say. |
| 1:25.6 | Who was Nassar at that moment? |
| 1:28.1 | How important was he to the socialist movement good evening cliff good evening to you well you |
| 1:32.9 | know nasa was an arab nationalist socialist um in terms of islam he invoked it |
| 1:40.0 | when it suited him but he also jaileded and executed leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood, |
| 1:46.5 | an organization created in 1920, just a few years after the fall of the last Islamic |
| 1:54.0 | empire and caliphate, I mean the Ottoman Empire and Caliphate, and, you know, that the Muslim Brotherhood lives on today, and it still wants to do what it |
| 2:04.9 | wanted to do then. |
| 2:05.7 | It wants to reestablishment of a powerful Islamic caliphate in the world. |
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