S8 Ep1108: Religious Persecution and the Rise of Underground Christianity in China. Gordon Chang and Piero Tozzi. Pastor Ezra Jin's release highlights the CCP's continued persecution of underground churches that refuse to answer to the state. Despite intense Siniciz
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🗓️ 9 July 2026
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Religious Persecution and the Rise of Underground Christianity in China. Gordon Chang and Piero Tozzi. Pastor Ezra Jin's release highlights the CCP's continued persecution of underground churches that refuse to answer to the state. Despite intense Sinicization and arrests of figures like Jimmy Lai, Christianity is flourishing in China as a witness for human dignity. Totalitarian control efforts have created an enemy in an underground congregation potentially numbering over 100 million. (3)
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| 0:25.6 | This is a high risk investment and you should not expect to be protected if something goes wrong. I'm John Bachelor, Gordon Chang at Gordon Ging, my colleague and co-host and friend, |
| 0:52.2 | I go to the reporting from the Wall Street Journal. |
| 0:55.3 | China releases imprisoned pastor Ezra Jin after U.S. pressure. |
| 1:01.5 | Leader of prominent Chinese underground church writes the subhead, arrives in Los Angeles. |
| 1:07.5 | We're very pleased to be able to comment on this because Piero Tozzi of the America First Institute joins us. |
| 1:14.1 | Help us understand this is Christianity, Christianity under pressure, Christianity behind the Iron Curtain. |
| 1:21.1 | Christianity released due to the good offices of people in the United States, including our colleague, Piero. |
| 1:29.2 | However, I need a backstory, Piero. Ezra Jin. |
| 1:33.0 | John and Gordon, great to be here. |
| 1:35.6 | You know, I think this really, the credit does go to President Trump here, because he did |
| 1:40.2 | raise the case of Pastor Ezra Jin in his meeting with Xi Jinping quite prominently and publicly. |
| 1:46.7 | And I think that in terms of deliverables from the summit, this was one that was achievable. |
| 1:54.0 | I think there was a full press on it. |
| 1:58.4 | Ivan Canopathy over at NSC, State Department. |
| 2:04.1 | So I think this was important. |
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