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S8 Ep1104: Henry Sokolski. Iran's Nuclear Defiance and the Futility of Unsupervised Deals. Sokolski highlights the disconnect between U.S. and Iranian positions following a recent memorandum of understanding. Iran refuses inspections of bombed enrichment sites, wh

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 8 July 2026

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Henry Sokolski. Iran's Nuclear Defiance and the Futility of Unsupervised Deals. Sokolski highlights the disconnect between U.S. and Iranian positions following a recent memorandum of understanding. Iran refuses inspections of bombed enrichment sites, while the U.S. insists on them. He warns that preventing Iran from building a bomb remains an uphill battle without clearer public goals. (16)
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0:52.0

He's traveling on the other side of the world to comment on

0:55.2

what we know so far about the suspect nuclear weapons program and the negotiations following the

1:00.4

memo of understanding and the meeting between the vice president and representatives of the

1:05.4

Islamic Republic of Iran. We're not looking at the state of our moves. We're not looking at the missile program. We're not looking at the deprait of Armuz. We're not looking at the missile program. We're

1:12.1

not looking at the depredations of the neighborhood or the hangings of citizens and the massacre

1:16.5

of citizens. We're looking at the nuclear weapons program that we were told in the summer of

1:22.3

25 was destroyed by the B-2 raid. There are remains of that program buried beneath mountains.

1:29.5

What is to be done?

1:31.3

Mr. Grosie, Rafael Grosie, the head of the IAEA, the new UN watchdog agency in charge of

1:38.3

inspections, said immediately after the memo of understanding that the inspectors would

1:43.9

be going back into Iran to look at what remains of the program.

1:48.4

No more than that.

1:49.9

However, there is more than that from Lucerne, from the meeting in Switzerland.

1:55.4

The vice president's opinion is there are three things.

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