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S8 Ep1100: Alan Tonelson. Tonelson discusses Canada's attempt to pivot trade toward China, which has drawn U.S. criticism. He argues that the U.S. maintains the upper hand because of China's massive trade dependence and internal economic vulnerabilities. (16)

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🗓️ 7 July 2026

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Alan Tonelson. Tonelson discusses Canada's attempt to pivot trade toward China, which has drawn U.S.criticism. He argues that the U.S. maintains the upper hand because of China's massive trade dependence and internal economic vulnerabilities. (16)
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0:00.0

I'm John Bachelor with Gordon Chang, my colleague and co-host, and we welcome our guide on manufacturing

0:22.6

and trade, as far as the United States can see in both directions, Alan Tunnelson, who blogs at

0:28.7

Reality Check, C-H-E-K. We come to a headline in the South China Morning Post, always reminding

0:35.7

the reason I use this is that it's in English, but it's also

0:40.3

presumably heavily influenced by the Chinese state. So therefore, caveat, everything you're about to

0:47.4

hear is information warfare. U.S. won't renew U.S.MCA trade pact as Greer targets Canada's China ties.

0:56.9

Subhead Beijing not named in official notice, but U.S. trade chief blames Canada's courtship

1:02.5

of Chinese investment as major obstacle to new agreement.

1:07.1

Alan, help me. Translate. What are they talking about? Good evening to you.

1:11.5

Hi, John, and hi, Gordon. What they're talking about is this continuing dream that's been

1:20.8

concocted by Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney to diversify Canada's economy away from incredibly heavy reliance on exporting

1:32.1

to the United States to exporting and generally doing business with various other countries.

1:38.7

Now, that's a perfectly understandable goal.

1:41.3

Given the fact that roughly 80% of Canada's exports do go to the United States

1:47.0

currently, and that amounts to about 25% of their entire economic output. But at the same time,

1:55.1

Parney has developed this completely loony idea that trading and doing business with China

2:03.1

can start to substitute effectively for trading and doing your business with the United States.

2:08.6

And he's clearly become trumply deranged.

2:12.1

And this is what U.S. trade representative Greer is reacting against.

2:17.9

In particular, Carney's decision to start opening Canada's doors to very substantial imports of Chinese electronic vehicles.

2:27.4

Gordon, have a question for Alan.

2:30.7

Alan, excuse me.

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