Head Cuffee, Whitney and my boyfriend.

Really?

Yeah.

Oh, well that was not in the police report.

From NBI Studios, this is Truth and Justice,

a crowdsourced investigation in real time.

I'm Bob Ruff.

The Courtney Double Homicide Case is a complex one to say the least.

We began with what seemed like a cut and dry case against Deborah Perringer.

But the closer we look at the investigation, the mudier the picture of the case becomes.

We're at the point in our work on the case where we need to start filling in the gaps ourselves.

As you all know, I'm leaving tomorrow to head to Fort Worth to try to find some answers

that are missing from the case file.

And for that very same purpose, this week, I reached out to someone who I feel is a key witness.

Dr. Margarita Abelos.

I called Dr. Abelos earlier this week and she agreed to record an interview with me.

The phone connection wasn't great and I want to say a big thank you to our music man,

chain the odor for cleaning it up and making it listenable.

Here's Dr. Abelos.

Texas Ranger James Holland is a legendary interrogator.

They call him the serial killer whisperer.

You can't hide those indications and that's why yesterday I knew that you did it.

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