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Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff

S8 Ep1: The Note

Truth & Justice with Bob Ruff

Bob Ruff

True Crime, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.67.2K Ratings

🗓️ 17 May 2020

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

In this Season 8 premiere episode, Bob begins our breakdown of the 2001 double homicide of Agnes and Lloyd "Smitty" Courtney. The Courtneys were murdered in their For Worth home. Their daughter Debbie Pieringer was ultimately convicted of their murders.

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0:00.0

From NBI Studios, this is Truth Injustice, a crowdsourced investigation in real time.

0:16.0

I'm Bob Run.

0:31.0

Stadium Drive, located in Southwest Fort Worth, Texas, is a quiet, middle-class neighborhood.

0:39.0

Many of the residents on the street in 2001 were retired, spending their days looking out their windows and keeping tabs on their neighbors.

0:48.0

The way it's been described to me almost makes it sound like a jump back through the decades, to a time where everyone knew their neighbors, they watched out for each other.

0:58.0

I'm reminded of many visits to my in-laws house, where my mother-in-law would be distracted during our conversations.

1:04.0

Half-listening to me is she stared across the street, eventually she would share what had been drawing her attention away from our chat.

1:12.0

You know that Glenda hasn't been home all day? Wonder what she's up to.

1:16.0

Brakes and routines like this would never go unnoticed on Stadium Drive.

1:21.0

A simple act like not closing your garage door, or not walking a visitor out to their car when they leave, would raise an alarm.

1:28.0

The tight-knit nature of the neighborhood is what led police to the front door of Lloyd and Agnes Courtney's house at 5.30 in the afternoon on November 2, 2001.

1:42.0

Officers Gonzales and Galutia were stunned when they walked to the door.

1:47.0

They had just stepped into the aftermath of a violent double homicide.

1:59.0

Texas Ranger James Holland is a legendary interrogator. They call him the serial killer Whisperer.

2:04.0

You can't hide those indications and that's why yesterday I knew that you did it.

2:08.0

But now shocking interrogation tapes reveal how the Super Cup really operates.

2:13.0

And that's why they asked me to come in because I'm special.

2:16.0

From something else, the Marshall Project and Sony Music Entertainment, this is Smoke Screen. Just say you're sorry.

2:23.0

Listen and follow on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcast.

2:29.0

Lloyd Courtney, known by most as Smitty, was a fingerprint analyst for the Fort Worth Police Department when he retired in 1984.

2:37.0

He had joined the force in 1952 just a few months after he married the love of his life Agnes.

2:44.0

In his early years as a cop, Smitty worked as a patrol officer, then as a motorcycle cop.

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