S8 Bonus: Kwindla Kramer, Daily

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4.6 • 216 Ratings

🗓️ 7 June 2023

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Kwindla Kramer has always been interested in building things, and his parents gave him lots of opportunity. He spent his early days learning to program on the Commodore 64, and playing old games like Loadrunner. He was super interested in the internet while in College, and in 1996, he got the opportunity to be apart of the MIT Media lab. Outside of tech, he is a quasi vegan, and enjoys the foggy beach living on the western edge of San Francisco. After exiting his last startup, Kwin took some time to figure out what he wanted to do next. During that time, he just started coding on projects, and came across WebRTC, which allowed real time communication for the web. This tech catalyzed a tipping point in his mind, and led him to build video experiments on top of it. This is the creation story of Daily. Our Sponsors: * Check out Kinsta: https://kinsta.com * Check out Red Hat: https://www.redhat.com * Check out Vanta: https://vanta.com/CODESTORY Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/code-story/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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0:00.0	Definitely we have, you know, non-trivial amounts of technical debt.
0:04.1	I actually don't really think there's a way around that in the real world.
0:07.3	So it's just how you box up and how you manage technical debt over time.
0:11.0	That's the hard thing.
0:12.7	But other people have other approaches that I think also work really well.
0:17.1	I have a funny story about a core technology choice and how that evolved for us.
0:22.6	We built the very first MVP on top of Firebase for part of our network layer.
0:28.7	And by the time we had a few hundred users, Firebase was the single most painful thing in our DevOps and customer support world, including all of the super immature web RTC stuff we had
0:39.0	written ourselves.
0:40.6	I'm Quindle Holman Kramer.
0:42.0	I'm one of the founders of Daily.
0:46.7	This is Code Story.
0:49.4	A podcast bringing you interviews with tech visionaries.
0:52.3	Six months moonlighting.
0:53.9	There's nothing on the backcats.
0:55.8	Who share what it takes to change in industry.
0:58.3	I don't exactly know what to do next.
1:00.2	Just took many goes to get right.
1:02.2	Who built the teams that have their back.
1:04.5	The company is its people.
1:06.1	The teams help each other achieve.
1:07.5	Most proud of our team.
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