We have a lot of earwax for the murder of William Lowe.

He was the castation attendant for your run.

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I'm Bob Ra.

Hello everyone and welcome back to Truth In Justice.

At the conclusion of last week's episode, Jim Clemente was about to call me back so I could discuss with him how the Jeff spit into our profile.

A few minutes later, Jim did call me back but we had a bad phone connection and we got cut off after about 10 minutes.

So we gave it a couple of days and Jim and I sat down to have a full discussion about how Jeff Miller and Jeff Durbin fit into our profile.

Listen into our conversation to find out Jim's take on the Jeffs.

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The basics of our conversation were revolving a lot around the fact that Bill's body position, which could mean that he was actually outside of the counter, not behind it.

We kind of determined that it looks like the unsub at some point was behind the counter.

Bill may have been blocking his path of egress to get out.

Then we talked about that back storage room could have been the unsub could have went back there trying to find a way out.

And then that's how Bill ended up in his way.

And then the call from that where he shortly before this happened that he called his friends cousin looking for him.

It says, you know, something something's wrong here. Something bad is going to happen. I need Danny to come back.

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