Hello Egg Chasers, it's the Egg Chasers Rugby Podcast, the podcast about rugby that doesn't

take itself all the game too seriously, I'm Tim here with JB, hello Tim, and here with

Phil, hello Tim, and you can think of this as a what a secondary podcast by the way,

obviously there's another one in your feed already, we make sure and we are the only

people that bring you a podcast every single Monday morning, 52 weeks of the year for seven

seasons and counting, but eight seasons, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, semantics, but yeah,

you're right, so yeah, but this is an extra podcast because so I think if we were all putting

cards on the table, we're all unified, which is rare for us, we all agree we would not eliminate

relegation from premiership rugby, gross, I would not eliminate relegation from rugby without

other measures in addition, well, yeah, so if we're just talking about an elimination relegation,

none of us would do that, yeah, so yeah, so which is what people are talking about and which

is what a lot of people would do, they would just, the binary choices relegation or no relegation

correct nothing else, yes, you are correct, I am anti no relegation, yes, and the facts of the

matter are as much as there are a lot of other people who think likewise, some of the most important

people in this equation is less so the fans, which is weird one, but there you go, it seems to be

the fact that the majority, if not all of the 13 clubs who hold shares in premiership rugby,

would all like permanent elimination of relegation, yes, they do not want relegation,

and you can understand it if you put their hat on, because you get inconsistency in your squad,

in your salary cap, in your building for teams for the future, look at Bristol and the struggles

that they had coming back up, which was, they were kind of thrown out a kilter because of the

success of exit achieves in coming up to the top table, and then the, yeah, and the

intermittent success of London Welsh in coming up to the top table, but it caused them years of

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